AFC West Denver Broncos

[Hoppy]

we can take a step back and call on Clady the jets have set him free
http://den.247sports.com/Bolt/Report-Je ... n-51312694

[CSpringsNSD]

I don't really agree with this article saying that Demarcus Ware is our biggest FA. Is he good? Yes. Is he important to the team? Yes. Is he our best, most productive player we could lose to FA? NO. I would put him at best number 3 on the list behind Vance Walker and Kayvon Webster.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/eve ... I#image=11

Agreed I won't even place him as high as you do. We have other pass rushers and I'm not sure the leadership won't shift to Miller this season

Miller has said he isn't a leader. That's just not his strength. I commend him for acknowledging that if it's the case, not many people can easily point to their own weakness like that. I guess we will see though, he's kind of in a position where it is going to be expected of him. Being the best and highest paid player on that side of the ball, if not the team, does that.

[CSpringsNSD]

Okung won't take pay cut so say see ya
http://den.247sports.com/Bolt/Report-Ok ... s-51316539

Yeah, he didn't play near good enough to be worth it. Wasn't the worst on the line but didn't help our problems either.

[Hoppy]

DT earl Mitchell will be released from Miami

[CSpringsNSD]

7 round mock! Even though just about every pick is likely to change/be wrong!

http://broncoswire.usatoday.com/2017/02 ... ound-mock/

[OnlyInUtah]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/rep ... li=BBnb7Kz

Romo thinks he'll be released....

[OnlyInUtah]

we can take a step back and call on Clady the jets have set him free
http://den.247sports.com/Bolt/Report-Je ... n-51312694

If you want a 4-8 game player. Clady's problem is he is hurt every year.

[OnlyInUtah]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/tex ... li=BBnbfcL

Gambling odds on where Romo will end up.

[CSpringsNSD]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/texans-are-gambling-favorites-to-land-tony-romo/ar-AAn3f80?li=BBnbfcL

Gambling odds on where Romo will end up.

3/1 for Denver, I seriously doubt it.

[Jarhead93]

we can take a step back and call on Clady the jets have set him free
http://den.247sports.com/Bolt/Report-Je ... n-51312694

If you want a 4-8 game player. Clady's problem is he is hurt every year.

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When Clady started, wasn't it before the "streamlined" rookie contracts? I would like to think so because he was awesome in like yr 1 & 2 because he signed that major deal right after that. Shortly thereafter the injuries started to pile up. I know he was doing a good job blocking for PFM and then something happened an injury (don't remember) but right after that he wasn't much better than a door stop.
Would that we could get someone like him but much more durable for less money.

Bringing him back is not one of the best options in my opinion

[CSpringsNSD]

Bringing him back is not one of the best options in my opinion

I don't see Elway bringing him back. If he adds FA o-linemen they are going to be quality, durable players he can count on. I don't think he will go cheap in that area this year.

[Jarhead93]

Bringing him back is not one of the best options in my opinion

I don't see Elway bringing him back. If he adds FA o-linemen they are going to be quality, durable players he can count on. I don't think he will go cheap in that area this year.

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I agree, we have now seen that patchwork isn't working. Unfortunately, there are no quality O-line guys coming out of college. Unless one of them somehow turns into Joe Thomas as a pro (highly unlikely) we will be doing this again at some point.
I know Elway is already looking, and anything that is coming out of the news media is a screen until #7 makes it official that we have signed this guy or that guy.

I'm think Okung isn't gonna take a pay cut. Look for him to move on.

[Hoppy]

Bringing him back is not one of the best options in my opinion

I don't see Elway bringing him back. If he adds FA o-linemen they are going to be quality, durable players he can count on. I don't think he will go cheap in that area this year.

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I agree, we have now seen that patchwork isn't working. Unfortunately, there are no quality O-line guys coming out of college. Unless one of them somehow turns into Joe Thomas as a pro (highly unlikely) we will be doing this again at some point.
I know Elway is already looking, and anything that is coming out of the news media is a screen until #7 makes it official that we have signed this guy or that guy.

I'm think Okung isn't gonna take a pay cut. Look for him to move on.

I happen to agree with both of you. John is going to add linemen through FA but the problem is there is no LT in FA that can do the job that Okung is doing. Te plan was to keep Okung and pay him less money. He will not take a pay cut he already said as much. They don't have a LT in the draft Cam Robinson is the best they have coming out.Then the second best rated there is Ramczyk is next and he has one year playing against good talent and he is coming off hip surgery. He may not even be ready to play this season. So I agree we will be here next season doing the same thing only I hope we have a higher draft choice like 32nd. That's why Clady who had his best years under McCoy's offense mind you if he comes cheap will be a look see. the last good LT here was who

[OnlyInUtah]

I think they'd sign Clady if he comes on the cheap. Like a "prove it" type of 1-2 year contract. If he isn't cheap they will take a pass because he's played an average of 8.3 games a season the last three years. But Hop has a point.... decent Left Tackles are few and far between this year and in the draft they are especially weak.

[OnlyInUtah]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/nfl ... li=BBnba9I

Another mock draft.....

[Jarhead93]

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On the Clady issue, I'm going to agree with Utah, I think we do at most a 3 yr incentive laden contract for veteran minimum
if Okung won't take a paycut. He came here thinking we were going back to the SB, problem was he spent too much time letting our QB get sacked and have those wonderful drive stopping holding penalties.

Without a running game of some sort we couldn't keep the defense from putting 8 in the box and daring us to throw. We'd get in 3rd and long and would have to punt.

Would somebody (McCoy, Musgrave, Joseph) please tell our team about ball control?
As much as I despise the Pats, that is what the hoodie is teaching them. I saw one of the post game analysis talking heads say that the Pats basically waited until Atlanta got tired of running Man-to-man coverage; then they started to play like champions, they didn't waste opportunities when they had the ball, they drove down the field and scored.
I too wondered why when Atlanta was in striking distance of that "close out" field goal, why didn't they run the ball?

Oh yeah, STUPID HOLDING PENALTIES!!

I can see the coach pulling his hair out now. "All we needed to win was a stinking field goal"

[Hoppy]

I guess I'm getting old. I forget to logout sometimes LOL good Night

[OnlyInUtah]

http://broncoswire.usatoday.com/2017/02 ... r-broncos/

Article on the worst high draft pick in Broncos history.

[OnlyInUtah]

http://draftwire.usatoday.com/2017/02/1 ... -position/

Draft picks ranked by position.

[Hoppy]

I had heard that the Phins were wanting to release Branden Albert. we had talked about no decent LT's in FA and he would have jumped to the top or close to it. Well now they traded him to Jacksonville for our favorite TE
http://den.247sports.com/Bolt/Report-Do ... -51380196/

[Hoppy]

http://draftwire.usatoday.com/2017/02/18/2017-nfl-draft-complete-prospect-rankings-by-position/

Draft picks ranked by position.

He's flipped the tackles around B/C of the off field problem that Cam Robinson had some pot but the bigger charge came from the possession of a stolen fire arm. Yes troublesome but he is the best of the tackles coming out I wouldn't put a man who may not play next season ahead of him

at QB I too have Deshaun Watson as the best coming out this year and last IMO Mitch Trubisky of NC next then Deshone Kizer in that order if 2 fall to the Broncos I would jump on them Kizer I don't take I still like JJ Watt's little brother. He is a Von Miller type player that may be able to play in the middle.

[CSpringsNSD]

McCoy promising success with our QBs

http://den.247sports.com/Bolt/Mike-McCo ... s-51373116

[CSpringsNSD]

I seriously doubt we draft both O.J. Howard and Christian McCaffrey. Maybe one or the other.

http://predominantlyorange.com/2017/02/ ... ond-round/

[Hoppy]

I seriously doubt we draft both O.J. Howard and Christian McCaffrey. Maybe one or the other.

http://predominantlyorange.com/2017/02/ ... ond-round/

Right This guy says Elway will draft 2 offensive players 1 and 2 and that's never happened in John's tender. We need Linemen on both sides of the ball and he wants 2 receivers. I still think Defense on the first pick. That's Elway's DNA

[Hoppy]

Broncos new O-line ass. leaves to join Shanahan in SF. John Benton was given permission to visit and took the job so we look for another. That should mark the end of anyone who was involved in the West Coast scheme. I say Hip Hip Hooray. If you want to start over start all the way over. That's with the line that is we still have our running backs coach.

[Hoppy]

The JT trade I was talking about fell through now the Phins get him for a late round pick Albert is said to be traded for a late round pick also JT 's pick will be 2017 Albert's 2018. Albert was one of the better LT when he played for the Chiefs. I guess his contract is more then he's worth. He will be paid 10 million this up coming season and 11 in 2018 the final year of his contract.

[Hoppy]

wish list for the Broncos in Free Agency
1) Kawann Short DT better than Poe and may be cheaper
2) Ricky Wagner RT may be the best linemen out there right now but will save the rating for now who knows who will be cut.
3A)Ronald Leary G from Dallas enough said but may be resigned.
3B)Andrew Norwell G
4) Alstin Pasztor T/G he was a free agent last season I think. not rated very high but better than some on this team and as we have said there isn't much out there

[OnlyInUtah]

wish list for the Broncos in Free Agency
1) Kawann Short DT better than Poe and may be cheaper
2) Ricky Wagner RT may be the best linemen out there right now but will save the rating for now who knows who will be cut.
3A)Ronald Leary G from Dallas enough said but may be resigned.
3B)Andrew Norwell G
4) Alstin Pasztor T/G he was a free agent last season I think. not rated very high but better than some on this team and as we have said there isn't much out there

I think most of them would be an upgrade over what we have now. Especially the first three.

[CSpringsNSD]

Players the Broncos should avoid in the first round

http://www.scout.com/nfl/broncos/story/ ... void-at-20

[OnlyInUtah]

Players the Broncos should avoid in the first round

http://www.scout.com/nfl/broncos/story/ ... void-at-20

They're saying take Bolles as a LT in the second round at and avoid McCaffery and Robinson altogether. Their logic in that seems pretty sound to me