AFC West Denver Broncos

[CSpringsNSD]

This Kelly kid seems to have something to prove. I like that fire. He is saying and doing all the right things. Studying and being active with the team despite not being able to contribute on the field. It seems he has put the problems in his past behind him and isn't going back, I hope it's true, he could be a real asset once he's healthy. The knee concerns me more than the wrist. I've had knee injuries and I know how hard it can be to trust them afterwards, I still cringe about stepping on ice or pivoting when playing basketball or opening my car door. It's there in the back of your head and if you can't silence it more injuries can occur due to hesitation.

http://www.9news.com/sports/nfl/denver- ... /445591180

[OnlyInUtah]

This Kelly kid seems to have something to prove. I like that fire. He is saying and doing all the right things. Studying and being active with the team despite not being able to contribute on the field. It seems he has put the problems in his past behind him and isn't going back, I hope it's true, he could be a real asset once he's healthy. The knee concerns me more than the wrist. I've had knee injuries and I know how hard it can be to trust them afterwards, I still cringe about stepping on ice or pivoting when playing basketball or opening my car door. It's there in the back of your head and if you can't silence it more injuries can occur due to hesitation.

http://www.9news.com/sports/nfl/denver- ... /445591180

I think he'll turn out to be a steal. He has all of the tools just was a dipshit. If he's changed his ways he should be a great long term addition.

[IckyIPA]

From this clip here, there is no doubt Charles will be ready to go by camp. Barring any setbacks of course. Look at Jano standing behind Juwan and CJ. He is one thick son-o-vich.
http://www.milehighreport.com/2017/6/5/ ... ota-drills

[Hoppy]

word has it that Lynch is coming along well in OTA's and Siemian had a bad day
http://den.247sports.com/ContentGallery ... 53038587/2

https://t.co/Ho8WLLLkzY

[OnlyInUtah]

word has it that Lynch is coming along well in OTA's and Siemian had a bad day
http://den.247sports.com/ContentGallery ... 53038587/2

https://t.co/Ho8WLLLkzY

I hope Lynch takes it to the next level.

[CSpringsNSD]

word has it that Lynch is coming along well in OTA's and Siemian had a bad day
http://den.247sports.com/ContentGallery ... 53038587/2

https://t.co/Ho8WLLLkzY

I hope Lynch takes it to the next level.

I'll like it if either of them takes it to the next level. The better anyone of them do the better it is for the Broncos. Yes we have a lot invested in Lynch and we all want it to pay off, but if the better competition from him makes Siemian better I'm good with that also.

[CSpringsNSD]

It's like the league has reached a perfect storm when it comes to Kap. The guy that sat at the bottom of our depth chart (Davis) last year just got signed in Seattle instead of him. People point to one thing or another about why he hasn't been signed but I kind of have to agree with this article that it's a little bit of everything. His protest last year, his perceived cost and his supposed regression all factor in. Not to mention that at this point most teams have who they want. I think if he wants to stay in the league he's going to have to drop his price to near the vet min for a chance. He can control that more than any other factor. At that point he can get in and prove whether or not he has regressed. I may not approve of what happened last year but I can see that it sort of started the dominoes falling in this crummy situation for him. If I were him I would be hitting up the Steelers for a chance. Big Ben only has so much longer to play. He's been teasing retirement for years and you can see in his face and the way his body moves that he can't take much more. Kap on a 2 year deal near the min gives both sides a chance to find what they need. Kap warms a bench this year and next year takes over if/when Big Ben retires. Steelers get a starter on the cheap that's ready to go when Ben inevitably calls it quits or is forced out due to injury.

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/seah ... ick-060517

[CSpringsNSD]

From this clip here, there is no doubt Charles will be ready to go by camp. Barring any setbacks of course. Look at Jano standing behind Juwan and CJ. He is one thick son-o-vich.
http://www.milehighreport.com/2017/6/5/ ... ota-drills

We will see, I wouldn't be surprised if Charles doesn't make it in the end. I would love to see more Janovich this year. I know it's a passing league but I like watching a FB run it up the defense's throats from time to time Dude is a beast and this team seems to be getting meaner and meaner. I like the progression/atmosphere Elway is creating. As long as the behave off field, get the meanest guys you can That's why Wolfe is another one of my favorites on the team.

[R8der113]

word has it that Lynch is coming along well in OTA's and Siemian had a bad day
http://den.247sports.com/ContentGallery ... 53038587/2

https://t.co/Ho8WLLLkzY

I hope Lynch takes it to the next level.

Glad too see you want to see Marshawn do well too......Beast Mode

[R8der113]

From this clip here, there is no doubt Charles will be ready to go by camp. Barring any setbacks of course. Look at Jano standing behind Juwan and CJ. He is one thick son-o-vich.
http://www.milehighreport.com/2017/6/5/ ... ota-drills

We will see, I wouldn't be surprised if Charles doesn't make it in the end. I would love to see more Janovich this year. I know it's a passing league but I like watching a FB run it up the defense's throats from time to time Dude is a beast and this team seems to be getting meaner and meaner. I like the progression/atmosphere Elway is creating. As long as the behave off field, get the meanest guys you can That's why Wolfe is another one of my favorites on the team.

Donkeys have a Fullback?....when's the last time youse had one?

[R8der113]

From this clip here, there is no doubt Charles will be ready to go by camp. Barring any setbacks of course. Look at Jano standing behind Juwan and CJ. He is one thick son-o-vich.
http://www.milehighreport.com/2017/6/5/ ... ota-drills

I'll take Katherine out of that Reno connection.

[R8der113]

Love it, when Hoppy disses another Bronco fan ...Rock heads will chock in the end Icky

I've been a good boy lately 113 why snitch me out?

sorry my amigo

[CSpringsNSD]

Donkeys have a Fullback?....when's the last time youse had one?

Last year...

[Hoppy]

It's like the league has reached a perfect storm when it comes to Kap. The guy that sat at the bottom of our depth chart (Davis) last year just got signed in Seattle instead of him. People point to one thing or another about why he hasn't been signed but I kind of have to agree with this article that it's a little bit of everything. His protest last year, his perceived cost and his supposed regression all factor in. Not to mention that at this point most teams have who they want. I think if he wants to stay in the league he's going to have to drop his price to near the vet min for a chance. He can control that more than any other factor. At that point he can get in and prove whether or not he has regressed. I may not approve of what happened last year but I can see that it sort of started the dominoes falling in this crummy situation for him. If I were him I would be hitting up the Steelers for a chance. Big Ben only has so much longer to play. He's been teasing retirement for years and you can see in his face and the way his body moves that he can't take much more. Kap on a 2 year deal near the min gives both sides a chance to find what they need. Kap warms a bench this year and next year takes over if/when Big Ben retires. Steelers get a starter on the cheap that's ready to go when Ben inevitably calls it quits or is forced out due to injury.

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/seah ... ick-060517

I as you all know agreed with his protest. I know the word is he showed no respect for the flag, I just don't see it that way. I know the flag isn't America the people are and Americans are being Killed for no reason and the only thing that keeps others from noticing is they don't care. He brought it to everyone attention with a protest of sitting. The question is why didn't he keep sitting. He knew that it was disrespectful sitting down. By going to a knee he was almost like praying. They praised Tebow but he wasn't kneeling on the national anthem. I myself don't like the anthem for it's racist second verse. I stand but not last year and I will not again this season although Kaepernick said he would. He did what he felt was right and he puts his money where his mouth is. Now as far as him getting a job it will happen this season. God works in mysterious ways. I don't think God will let this young man down. Before the season is over he will get a team a good team and help them to the playoffs. Some QB somewhere on a good team will go down and the Kaep will be off. I said it first

[Hoppy]

From this clip here, there is no doubt Charles will be ready to go by camp. Barring any setbacks of course. Look at Jano standing behind Juwan and CJ. He is one thick son-o-vich.
http://www.milehighreport.com/2017/6/5/ ... ota-drills

We will see, I wouldn't be surprised if Charles doesn't make it in the end. I would love to see more Janovich this year. I know it's a passing league but I like watching a FB run it up the defense's throats from time to time Dude is a beast and this team seems to be getting meaner and meaner. I like the progression/atmosphere Elway is creating. As long as the behave off field, get the meanest guys you can That's why Wolfe is another one of my favorites on the team.

Donkeys have a Fullback?....when's the last time youse had one?

hey we don't want that name calling over here. Your parents taught you to behave when you go to someone 's house. Don't make me email your wife

[Hoppy]

word has it that Lynch is coming along well in OTA's and Siemian had a bad day
http://den.247sports.com/ContentGallery ... 53038587/2

https://t.co/Ho8WLLLkzY

I hope Lynch takes it to the next level.

Glad too see you want to see Marshawn do well too......Beast Mode

the only Lynch we want to do well in the bay area would be on the other side of the bay. John Lynch

[Hoppy]

cut a center Monday sign a lineman to replace him
https://t.co/8h8ifcgRlE

[R8der113]

It's like the league has reached a perfect storm when it comes to Kap. The guy that sat at the bottom of our depth chart (Davis) last year just got signed in Seattle instead of him. People point to one thing or another about why he hasn't been signed but I kind of have to agree with this article that it's a little bit of everything. His protest last year, his perceived cost and his supposed regression all factor in. Not to mention that at this point most teams have who they want. I think if he wants to stay in the league he's going to have to drop his price to near the vet min for a chance. He can control that more than any other factor. At that point he can get in and prove whether or not he has regressed. I may not approve of what happened last year but I can see that it sort of started the dominoes falling in this crummy situation for him. If I were him I would be hitting up the Steelers for a chance. Big Ben only has so much longer to play. He's been teasing retirement for years and you can see in his face and the way his body moves that he can't take much more. Kap on a 2 year deal near the min gives both sides a chance to find what they need. Kap warms a bench this year and next year takes over if/when Big Ben retires. Steelers get a starter on the cheap that's ready to go when Ben inevitably calls it quits or is forced out due to injury.

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/seah ... ick-060517

I as you all know agreed with his protest. I know the word is he showed no respect for the flag, I just don't see it that way. I know the flag isn't America the people are and Americans are being Killed for no reason and the only thing that keeps others from noticing is they don't care. He brought it to everyone attention with a protest of sitting. The question is why didn't he keep sitting. He knew that it was disrespectful sitting down. By going to a knee he was almost like praying. They praised Tebow but he wasn't kneeling on the national anthem. I myself don't like the anthem for it's racist second verse. I stand but not last year and I will not again this season although Kaepernick said he would. He did what he felt was right and he puts his money where his mouth is. Now as far as him getting a job it will happen this season. God works in mysterious ways. I don't think God will let this young man down. Before the season is over he will get a team a good team and help them to the playoffs. Some QB somewhere on a good team will go down and the Kaep will be off. I said it first

My first take on it was why didn't he say something before kneeling down?....I think he was lazy or tired and got caught on camera kneeling during the anthem...then started this whole protest thing......I do think the owners have him black balled...wouldn't be the first time...just ask Ray Rice.

[R8der113]

From this clip here, there is no doubt Charles will be ready to go by camp. Barring any setbacks of course. Look at Jano standing behind Juwan and CJ. He is one thick son-o-vich.
http://www.milehighreport.com/2017/6/5/ ... ota-drills

We will see, I wouldn't be surprised if Charles doesn't make it in the end. I would love to see more Janovich this year. I know it's a passing league but I like watching a FB run it up the defense's throats from time to time Dude is a beast and this team seems to be getting meaner and meaner. I like the progression/atmosphere Elway is creating. As long as the behave off field, get the meanest guys you can That's why Wolfe is another one of my favorites on the team.

Donkeys have a Fullback?....when's the last time youse had one?

hey we don't want that name calling over here. Your parents taught you to behave when you go to someone 's house. Don't make me email your wife

Name calling.....I've called them donkeys for years.....Hope Tyler is well and gearing up for a real slobberknocker this year

[OnlyInUtah]

It's like the league has reached a perfect storm when it comes to Kap. The guy that sat at the bottom of our depth chart (Davis) last year just got signed in Seattle instead of him. People point to one thing or another about why he hasn't been signed but I kind of have to agree with this article that it's a little bit of everything. His protest last year, his perceived cost and his supposed regression all factor in. Not to mention that at this point most teams have who they want. I think if he wants to stay in the league he's going to have to drop his price to near the vet min for a chance. He can control that more than any other factor. At that point he can get in and prove whether or not he has regressed. I may not approve of what happened last year but I can see that it sort of started the dominoes falling in this crummy situation for him. If I were him I would be hitting up the Steelers for a chance. Big Ben only has so much longer to play. He's been teasing retirement for years and you can see in his face and the way his body moves that he can't take much more. Kap on a 2 year deal near the min gives both sides a chance to find what they need. Kap warms a bench this year and next year takes over if/when Big Ben retires. Steelers get a starter on the cheap that's ready to go when Ben inevitably calls it quits or is forced out due to injury.

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/seah ... ick-060517

I as you all know agreed with his protest. I know the word is he showed no respect for the flag, I just don't see it that way. I know the flag isn't America the people are and Americans are being Killed for no reason and the only thing that keeps others from noticing is they don't care. He brought it to everyone attention with a protest of sitting. The question is why didn't he keep sitting. He knew that it was disrespectful sitting down. By going to a knee he was almost like praying. They praised Tebow but he wasn't kneeling on the national anthem. I myself don't like the anthem for it's racist second verse. I stand but not last year and I will not again this season although Kaepernick said he would. He did what he felt was right and he puts his money where his mouth is. Now as far as him getting a job it will happen this season. God works in mysterious ways. I don't think God will let this young man down. Before the season is over he will get a team a good team and help them to the playoffs. Some QB somewhere on a good team will go down and the Kaep will be off. I said it first

My first take on it was why didn't he say something before kneeling down?....I think he was lazy or tired and got caught on camera kneeling during the anthem...then started this whole protest thing......I do think the owners have him black balled...wouldn't be the first time...just ask Ray Rice.

He was known to kneel for the Anthem before last year. That's the problem I have for him getting called out for it and then making it a sudden protest.

[Jarhead93]

It's like the league has reached a perfect storm when it comes to Kap. The guy that sat at the bottom of our depth chart (Davis) last year just got signed in Seattle instead of him. People point to one thing or another about why he hasn't been signed but I kind of have to agree with this article that it's a little bit of everything. His protest last year, his perceived cost and his supposed regression all factor in. Not to mention that at this point most teams have who they want. I think if he wants to stay in the league he's going to have to drop his price to near the vet min for a chance. He can control that more than any other factor. At that point he can get in and prove whether or not he has regressed. I may not approve of what happened last year but I can see that it sort of started the dominoes falling in this crummy situation for him. If I were him I would be hitting up the Steelers for a chance. Big Ben only has so much longer to play. He's been teasing retirement for years and you can see in his face and the way his body moves that he can't take much more. Kap on a 2 year deal near the min gives both sides a chance to find what they need. Kap warms a bench this year and next year takes over if/when Big Ben retires. Steelers get a starter on the cheap that's ready to go when Ben inevitably calls it quits or is forced out due to injury.

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/seah ... ick-060517

I as you all know agreed with his protest. I know the word is he showed no respect for the flag, I just don't see it that way. I know the flag isn't America the people are and Americans are being Killed for no reason and the only thing that keeps others from noticing is they don't care. He brought it to everyone attention with a protest of sitting. The question is why didn't he keep sitting. He knew that it was disrespectful sitting down. By going to a knee he was almost like praying. They praised Tebow but he wasn't kneeling on the national anthem. I myself don't like the anthem for it's racist second verse. I stand but not last year and I will not again this season although Kaepernick said he would. He did what he felt was right and he puts his money where his mouth is. Now as far as him getting a job it will happen this season. God works in mysterious ways. I don't think God will let this young man down. Before the season is over he will get a team a good team and help them to the playoffs. Some QB somewhere on a good team will go down and the Kaep will be off. I said it first

My first take on it was why didn't he say something before kneeling down?....I think he was lazy or tired and got caught on camera kneeling during the anthem...then started this whole protest thing......I do think the owners have him black balled...wouldn't be the first time...just ask Ray Rice.

He was known to kneel for the Anthem before last year. That's the problem I have for him getting called out for it and then making it a sudden protest.

**
Here is where I stand:

I have said this before, I agree with his right to protest. I believe he could have found a different outlet to show it.
As a veteran I find the sitting during the national anthem extremely disrespectful. IF for no other reason than to acknowledge those who fought and died for your right to protest you should stand to honor them.

We just passed Memorial Day - celebrating those who gave the ultimate sacrifice for our freedom. I believe with all my heart that Mr. K has the right to protest. I am confident that the whirlwind that was started by his actions will eventually die down.

I agree with you sooner or later a team will need his services. I also think that Michael Vick might be a good QB coach (Hello NY Jets???)

which begs the question why is he "retired" when you could have him or Cutler? they are MILES & MILES better than those Yahoo's you have as QB's now

[CSpringsNSD]

**
Here is where I stand:

I have said this before, I agree with his right to protest. I believe he could have found a different outlet to show it.
As a veteran I find the sitting during the national anthem extremely disrespectful. IF for no other reason than to acknowledge those who fought and died for your right to protest you should stand to honor them.

We just passed Memorial Day - celebrating those who gave the ultimate sacrifice for our freedom. I believe with all my heart that Mr. K has the right to protest. I am confident that the whirlwind that was started by his actions will eventually die down.

I agree with you sooner or later a team will need his services. I also think that Michael Vick might be a good QB coach (Hello NY Jets???)

which begs the question why is he "retired" when you could have him or Cutler? they are MILES & MILES better than those Yahoo's you have as QB's now

Honestly, the kneeling didn't even bother me. It was the first game where he sat and just looked plain disinterested where I had a problem. I felt it was very disrespectful. With kneeling I felt that at least he acknowledged that what was going on around him was important instead of ignoring it. All Americans have the right to protest. It's one of the many things that make this nation special and stand out in history. But it is still possible to be respectful when protesting. Look at the civil rights movement and the difference between Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr. One was an agent of fear and the other an agent of love and respect. King did and goes down as making the most difference and this is a big reason why. Presentation is big and impressions last a long time.

[Hoppy]

**
Here is where I stand:

I have said this before, I agree with his right to protest. I believe he could have found a different outlet to show it.
As a veteran I find the sitting during the national anthem extremely disrespectful. IF for no other reason than to acknowledge those who fought and died for your right to protest you should stand to honor them.

We just passed Memorial Day - celebrating those who gave the ultimate sacrifice for our freedom. I believe with all my heart that Mr. K has the right to protest. I am confident that the whirlwind that was started by his actions will eventually die down.

I agree with you sooner or later a team will need his services. I also think that Michael Vick might be a good QB coach (Hello NY Jets???)

which begs the question why is he "retired" when you could have him or Cutler? they are MILES & MILES better than those Yahoo's you have as QB's now

Honestly, the kneeling didn't even bother me. It was the first game where he sat and just looked plain disinterested where I had a problem. I felt it was very disrespectful. With kneeling I felt that at least he acknowledged that what was going on around him was important instead of ignoring it. All Americans have the right to protest. It's one of the many things that make this nation special and stand out in history. But it is still possible to be respectful when protesting. Look at the civil rights movement and the difference between Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr. One was an agent of fear and the other an agent of love and respect. King did and goes down as making the most difference and this is a big reason why. Presentation is big and impressions last a long time.

You are right and wrong about Brother Malcolm and I call him that because of who he was when he was murdered not who he was when he was taught by Elijah Muhammad. You didn't really know of Malcolm X he went to Mecca and came back another man. He learned that all Whites were not the devil and started preaching that. That's why he was murdered with the help of the nation. Now who is the real devil here. A shoe salesman from the state od Penn. A white man who went to Detroit and taught Elijah Muhammad. His name was Fard Muhammad. Wallace D. Fard was a white man who taught this hate to Elijah and passed it on to L. Farrakhan and Malcolm Little The two leaders were in completion to be the leader of the Nation when Elijah passes on. Some believe that Farrakhan had some to do with Malcolm being killed by pulling his bodyguards away that night Malcolm was shot to death. Malcolm was preaching a new word that all whited were not the devil and that they as Muslims should respect men for being men until they showed themselves as being white men. That meant that you are a man like I am a man you should treat me as you want me to treat you until you show me that you don't believe that I am just like you. Or you think you were better then me. He was pulling the Nation away from that hate that Elijah and Farrakhan were teaching. But the media was giving the people what they were told to give them. Remember there wasn't TV everywhere then so you believe what you read in the papers. They called him just as you just did a racist which he was before he found the truth. when he sat with White Muslims in Mecca and prayed together.

[Hoppy]

**
Here is where I stand:

I have said this before, I agree with his right to protest. I believe he could have found a different outlet to show it.
As a veteran I find the sitting during the national anthem extremely disrespectful. IF for no other reason than to acknowledge those who fought and died for your right to protest you should stand to honor them.

We just passed Memorial Day - celebrating those who gave the ultimate sacrifice for our freedom. I believe with all my heart that Mr. K has the right to protest. I am confident that the whirlwind that was started by his actions will eventually die down.

I agree with you sooner or later a team will need his services. I also think that Michael Vick might be a good QB coach (Hello NY Jets???)

which begs the question why is he "retired" when you could have him or Cutler? they are MILES & MILES better than those Yahoo's you have as QB's now

Honestly, the kneeling didn't even bother me. It was the first game where he sat and just looked plain disinterested where I had a problem. I felt it was very disrespectful. With kneeling I felt that at least he acknowledged that what was going on around him was important instead of ignoring it. All Americans have the right to protest. It's one of the many things that make this nation special and stand out in history. But it is still possible to be respectful when protesting. Look at the civil rights movement and the difference between Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr. One was an agent of fear and the other an agent of love and respect. King did and goes down as making the most difference and this is a big reason why. Presentation is big and impressions last a long time.

You are right and wrong about Brother Malcolm and I call him that because of who he was when he was murdered not who he was when he was taught by Elijah Muhammad. You didn't really know of Malcolm X he went to Mecca and came back another man. He learned that all Whites were not the devil and started preaching that. That's why he was murdered with the help of the nation. Now who is the real devil here. A shoe salesman from the state od Penn. A white man who went to Detroit and taught Elijah Muhammad. His name was Fard Muhammad. Wallace D. Fard was a white man who taught this hate to Elijah and passed it on to L. Farrakhan and Malcolm Little The two leaders were in completion to be the leader of the Nation when Elijah passes on. Some believe that Farrakhan had some to do with Malcolm being killed by pulling his bodyguards away that night Malcolm was shot to death. Malcolm was preaching a new word that all whited were not the devil and that they as Muslims should respect men for being men until they showed themselves as being white men. That meant that you are a man like I am a man you should treat me as you want me to treat you until you show me that you don't believe that I am just like you. Or you think you were better then me. He was pulling the Nation away from that hate that Elijah and Farrakhan were teaching. But the media was giving the people what they were told to give them. Remember there wasn't TV everywhere then so you believe what you read in the papers. They called him just as you just did a racist which he was before he found the truth. when he sat with White Muslims in Mecca and prayed together.

I forgot to add a important fact. some of the members of the Nation look at Fard as the Christ. Funny how you teach hate of the white man then think of on as your god. I find that funny

[CSpringsNSD]

They called him just as you just did a racist which he was before he found the truth.

Just to be clear, I didn't call Malcolm a racist. I think that term is wildly overused in today's language, especially the media, and as such, I feel it has lost a lot of its meaning/significance, which is unfortunate. I don't know enough about the man to make that determination and probably never will. I think most "racist individuals" can more often be referred to as ignorant of their actions or words. I never perceived that Malcolm thought he and other blacks were better than the whites or anyone else, I viewed it as a battle for equality that was fought with violence instead of diplomacy. Therefore I don't really see him as a racist. I saw him as wanting similar things as King, but going about it a completely different way.

[CSpringsNSD]

Eric Decker worth a look or is sticking with the young guys for our #3 receiver the best option? There are obvious connections here, but he would take a back seat to DT and Sanders. And I don't think we should trade for him. Not worth it if the team is planning to release him anyways.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/jet ... li=BBnba9I

[CSpringsNSD]

Lol, now Oz may get the start in Cleveland. It isn't like the bar is that high with the other guys though

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/rep ... li=BBnba9I

[Hoppy]

They called him just as you just did a racist which he was before he found the truth.

Just to be clear, I didn't call Malcolm a racist. I think that term is wildly overused in today's language, especially the media, and as such, I feel it has lost a lot of its meaning/significance, which is unfortunate. I don't know enough about the man to make that determination and probably never will. I think most "racist individuals" can more often be referred to as ignorant of their actions or words. I never perceived that Malcolm thought he and other blacks were better than the whites or anyone else, I viewed it as a battle for equality that was fought with violence instead of diplomacy. Therefore I don't really see him as a racist. I saw him as wanting similar things as King, but going about it a completely different way.

No he was racist just as Farrakhan is and always will be racist in my eyes. He didn't teach go be violent but he did teach meet violence with violence.
I was a young lad back then so my parents kept me in line and wouldn't let me watch read or know anything about the hard times the blacks were going through. I lived in a black neighborhood because of Jim Crow but I was bused to a white school where there were only 15 blacks in the school from grades k-8th. I feel lucky that I had that education now. but that's why my parents kept things from us. I didn't even know who MLK was when he was murdered. That's when I started going to the news stands and reading as much as I could. Some of the kids said some cruel things that I didn't understand at the time. Today I know that they were only repeating what they heard at home. but then I thought they liked me and it hurt to think they didn't b/c of my skin. So hate was taught on all sides and the people didn't like king any more then they liked Stokely Carmichael

[Jarhead93]

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In regard to racism - the worst disease I can imagine, you watch it being spread throughout our country.
I call it a disease because it is infectious, contagious and spreads like wildfire. Sadly, it can be expressed by ANY color (red, yellow, black, white)
I remember years ago a study was done with a group of babies, where they were all placed in a room and let them just play together, after a while a baby was removed from the group and placed in a separate room, the others could see him/her but they could not touch. Shortly thereafter with no coaching from any parents, that baby was returned to the group with nothing different about him/ her except the diapers were a different color.

the other children avoided that other baby.
what that tells me is racism can be taught. just like hate. Now, I would think that in a country with as much as we have been granted by the Good Lord, we could get beyond racial stereotypes. I guess not, which is why groups like Black Lives Matter exists. I don't discount the fact that racial profiling is alive and well, Hell, I've experienced it personally. But I think the point we are missing is ALL LIVES matter.

When someone loses their life over something insignificant it should hurt our collective hearts.
But because we have trivialized human life it isn't important until Trayvon, or some other young man loses his life because of racial stupidity.
We need to get off the horse that blames everyone else for the problems with race in our country and look for solutions.

1. VOTE
2. Read
3. Pray (should be #1)

I could go on, but I think you get my point.
We should concern ourselves here on how many sacks Mr. Miller will get on our various opponents this year
I submit his name now for at least 12 & DPOY - I said it first (I think)

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We should concern ourselves here on how many sacks Mr. Miller will get on our various opponents this year
I submit his name now for at least 12 & DPOY - I said it first (I think)

I will give you credit, I think you are the first I was hoping more like 16+ though. It is getting harder for him with offenses adjusting though and other guys getting the sacks instead. As Miller's sacks go down I expect Ray's to go up. As that happens, offenses will have to shift again, hopefully opening up Miller more over time. I have high hopes again for the defense this year and I think it is realistic for them to meet them.