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CSpringsNSD wrote:I don't want Kap and all the junk and drama that comes with him. He's not worth it and hasn't been good in a while. He'll be even worse behind our o-line. I saw keep Lynch and Siemian and bring in real competition for them over the offseason. Use FA and the draft to rebuild the o-line. Most of the defense is locked up so we are good there, same with vital pieces on the offense.
OnlyInUtah wrote:CSpringsNSD wrote:I don't want Kap and all the junk and drama that comes with him. He's not worth it and hasn't been good in a while. He'll be even worse behind our o-line. I saw keep Lynch and Siemian and bring in real competition for them over the offseason. Use FA and the draft to rebuild the o-line. Most of the defense is locked up so we are good there, same with vital pieces on the offense.
Agreed. Plus if the Texans gave Oz 72 million who knows what the Jets, Browns, and Jags will shell out for a mediocre QB like Kap next year.
CSpringsNSD wrote:OnlyInUtah wrote:CSpringsNSD wrote:I don't want Kap and all the junk and drama that comes with him. He's not worth it and hasn't been good in a while. He'll be even worse behind our o-line. I saw keep Lynch and Siemian and bring in real competition for them over the offseason. Use FA and the draft to rebuild the o-line. Most of the defense is locked up so we are good there, same with vital pieces on the offense.
Agreed. Plus if the Texans gave Oz 72 million who knows what the Jets, Browns, and Jags will shell out for a mediocre QB like Kap next year.
If both QBs were the same amount I would take Oz over Kap, but not at 72 million.
Hoppy wrote:First I'm not saying I want him here. Now I don't think he will be asking for that much remember he wasn't the starter at the beginning of the season and his numbers aren't that great now. Yes he will get more than a rookie would because of the way the contract language is with the league. But he doesn't have a strong leg to stand on unless he doesn't want to win. In other words he has to take less to go to a winning team. He may want to win he's made money and understands he was just at third down and 1 to go out of the league. Kap is not mediocre he has a big arm and can scramble. We may not like him for his off field politics but he can play. what changed from when John tried to sign him before the season when he was still injured. Most were all for him coming here if he restructured his deal. I was, Just have to let him know to tone his politics down some like Marshall has done.
IckyIPA wrote:D-line, O-line, Qbs, suck. I will be surprised if we make the play-offs!
IckyIPA wrote:So what if it's 63 yards!!!! There would be no time left on the clock. So, why not atleast try the FG? Time to call it a career, and hang up the whistle Kubes I see no fire nor desire in him, and it shows in the teams body language too.
Hoppy wrote:another bad game for the home team. That just about does it as far as the Playoffs. The run had to end sometime. Lets just be glad we're not the Browns
Hoppy wrote:IckyIPA wrote:So what if it's 63 yards!!!! There would be no time left on the clock. So, why not atleast try the FG? Time to call it a career, and hang up the whistle Kubes I see no fire nor desire in him, and it shows in the teams body language too.
I felt the same way when he called for the Field goal at the end of the Chiefs game. And the play calling sucks
CSpringsNSD wrote:Overall it was a pretty disappointing game/season. The offense has been non-existent and the defense plays so much that they couldn't recover for the next game if they took the whole week off. I place most of my blame on the o-line unit. Seems that most everything can be traced back to those 5 guys on the field. Even play calling is effected when the coach knows he has no chance of running the ball or calling certain other plays.
OnlyInUtah wrote:CSpringsNSD wrote:Overall it was a pretty disappointing game/season. The offense has been non-existent and the defense plays so much that they couldn't recover for the next game if they took the whole week off. I place most of my blame on the o-line unit. Seems that most everything can be traced back to those 5 guys on the field. Even play calling is effected when the coach knows he has no chance of running the ball or calling certain other plays.
We have neglected the offensive line for way too long now. Every year it gets a little worse than the previous year.
CSpringsNSD wrote:OnlyInUtah wrote:CSpringsNSD wrote:Overall it was a pretty disappointing game/season. The offense has been non-existent and the defense plays so much that they couldn't recover for the next game if they took the whole week off. I place most of my blame on the o-line unit. Seems that most everything can be traced back to those 5 guys on the field. Even play calling is effected when the coach knows he has no chance of running the ball or calling certain other plays.
We have neglected the offensive line for way too long now. Every year it gets a little worse than the previous year.
Agreed. It has finally caught up with us. Need Shanny to come back and consult on the line lol.
OnlyInUtah wrote:Now that the Ravens lost we are back in the 6th seed. Like we'd make much noise in the playoffs this year. A Tony Romo deal is looking better by the minute....lol.
CSpringsNSD wrote:OnlyInUtah wrote:Now that the Ravens lost we are back in the 6th seed. Like we'd make much noise in the playoffs this year. A Tony Romo deal is looking better by the minute....lol.
Not good enough to get far in the post season and too good to get a decent draft pick
OnlyInUtah wrote:CSpringsNSD wrote:OnlyInUtah wrote:Now that the Ravens lost we are back in the 6th seed. Like we'd make much noise in the playoffs this year. A Tony Romo deal is looking better by the minute....lol.
Not good enough to get far in the post season and too good to get a decent draft pick
I think the offensive line studs will still be around mid to lower first round. A run stopper on defensive would be nice in the second round.
CSpringsNSD wrote:OnlyInUtah wrote:CSpringsNSD wrote:OnlyInUtah wrote:Now that the Ravens lost we are back in the 6th seed. Like we'd make much noise in the playoffs this year. A Tony Romo deal is looking better by the minute....lol.
Not good enough to get far in the post season and too good to get a decent draft pick
I think the offensive line studs will still be around mid to lower first round. A run stopper on defensive would be nice in the second round.
True, let's just hope that Elway can look past "best player available" to a degree and focus on what we need. I don't see us making a big FA splash so needs won't be filled that way. I think the best chance for us to do something in FA starts with moving DT. He is the best player with the most valuable contact that is underperforming in my opinion. Moving him opens up a decent amount of money since his contract was never restructured.
Hoppy wrote:You can't move DT this season without taking a big Cap hit. It will cost 18 million on our cap If I remember right. Trading him last off season was the best and cheapest hit on our cap. That's one of the reasons I wanted to trade him last season.next season it will hurt us even more. This was a poor contract the way it's written.
CSpringsNSD wrote:Hoppy wrote:You can't move DT this season without taking a big Cap hit. It will cost 18 million on our cap If I remember right. Trading him last off season was the best and cheapest hit on our cap. That's one of the reasons I wanted to trade him last season.next season it will hurt us even more. This was a poor contract the way it's written.
Darn, I wasn't sure where it would be this year since we didn't do the signing bonus thing the last couple seasons. Doesn't make sense to get rid of him I guess.
Hoppy wrote:I was wrong if we cut him he will cost us 19 million trading him will just save us 1.4 million his hit will be 10.6 million his cap number is 12 million. Where we will save money will be Talib. His cap is also 12 but to cut him it will cost us 2 million but if we wait until June 1st it will cost us 1 million.
Okung should be another June 1st cut he will cost us 200.000 then his cap number is 11.7 if he is on the team June 2nd. Cutting those two will save us 23 million in cap space. Here is a link to do the math
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q= ... Fb9yPQRuAg
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