NYG / NFC East Talk

[LadyHawk]

Nice win, Baglady.

I am SERIOUSLY concerned about the Seahawks facing the Giants. Why:? Mostly because they highlighted last night HOW MANY QUARTERBACKS the Giants have "taken out" this season. Gooood lord. The last thing we need is to have Hasselbeck taken out. But I am going to brace myself for it.

[16Forever]

Romo sent photos of his junk to RuPaul? Really?

[LadyHawk]

Romo sent photos of his junk to RuPaul? Really?

Hmm...? Isn't that question more the speed for the iSports crowd?

[TryThinking]

Romo sent photos of his junk to RuPaul? Really?

It's the latest fad, didn't you get the memo?

[Emeritus]

I'm afraid that if I ever sent such photos, the woman would be showing them to everybody she knew for laughs. They would post copies at the beauty shops for comic relief. Pretty soon every woman in Beaumont, Texas would laugh when she saw me.

[ListenUp]

Giants:

Offense: 9th (Pts), 3rd (YPG), 9th (Pass), 4th (Run)

Defense: 19th (Pts), 2nd (YPG), 2nd (Pass), 3rd (Rush)


Seattle:

Offense: 20th (Pts), 28th (YPG), 20th (Pass), 24th (Run)

Defense: 5th (PPG), 19th (YPG), 29th (Pass), 2nd (Run)


Summary:

The Seahawks play well at home but have not played very good opponents thus far this year whose combined record is 15 and 26 and have only beaten one team over .500 (Bears). They have a very muddled offense and defense with their defensive high points being against the rush (vs. team with little running game to begin with) and points per game (which is the biggie ... ranked 5th) where they are very stingey.

Conversely, the Giants have beaten two teams above .500 (Bears and Texans ... both well in hand games) and have had a slightly tougher schedule thus far with opponents' combined record being 20 and 24.

On paper, the Giants look to run away with this game both having a prolific offense and a stout defense. The Seahawks favor passing (205 attempts vs. 129 rushing) which bodes well for the Giants' vaunted pass rush, while the Giants have been fairly balanced (239 pass / 194 rush) on offense.

The major stumbling blocks for the Giants in this game are:

1) The Giants are 1-2 vs. the Seahawks under Tom Coughlin with both losses coming at Qwest Stadium.

2) The Giants ae -5 in turnovers while the Seahawks are +3. While the Giants force more turnovers (double the Seahawks) they also give up more turnovers (more then double the Seahawks).

3) Seahawks special teams are very good, with Leon Washington returning 2 TDs this year and Olindo Mare being 100% on the year in FGs, while the Giants' weakest area has been on ST coverage and returns, and a shakey kicking game.

Additional Notes: The Giants are 3-3 after the Bye under Coughlin but only one of those losses being a road loss and one of the wins being a 44-6 thumping of the Seahawks (at Giants' stadium) and are 2-0 the past two years after the Bye.

Qwest Stadium has been considered the loudest stadium over the past half decade and it's been sold out since 2003.

LU's Take: If the Giants play relatively mistake free football, they win this game hands down.

However if the turnovers that continue to plague them rears its ugly head (again) and there is a breakdown on STs (again) the Seahawks could very well sneak away with one.

You have to assume that after the 5 turnover fiesta at Dallas this past week, TC will be working the boys extra hard in this area over the Bye. Special Teams wise, I just don't see us improving in coverages and returns.

[Emeritus]

As many great coaches have said, statistics are bunk. An excellent example is the Chargers. They are first in the NFL in both offense and defense, but have a 2-5 record.

[TryThinking]

As many great coaches have said, statistics are bunk. An excellent example is the Chargers. They are first in the NFL in both offense and defense, but have a 2-5 record.

That's what turnovers will do to you. They are 16th in points allowed.

[Emeritus]

They amaze me. They may be the most talented team in football, but they keep inventing ways to lose.

[Baglady]

Fights in the stands, the lights dim followed by a total blackout - gotta love a Cowboys @ NYG game - lol!
Have a few pics but it says they're too big to post here???
What a Giants implosion - did the Cowboys have to pick THAT game to play their best game of the season????

[Reecey]

I sense evil on this page. Right above me at that.

Colts Fans = The Legion of Doom.

[Baglady]

I sense evil on this page. Right above me at that.

Colts Fans = The Legion of Doom.

Hmmm, well evil usually resides south - just saying.... Colts above you??? Nah, won't go there, that would be cruel (need an innocent angel pic)

[Reecey]

I sense evil on this page. Right above me at that.

Colts Fans = The Legion of Doom.

Hmmm, well evil usually resides south - just saying.... Colts above you??? Nah, won't go there, that would be cruel (need an innocent angel pic)

You just wait till I can think of a comeback! I'm gonna get you!

[LadyHawk]

You just wait till I can think of a comeback! I'm gonna get you!

LOL!!! *snort*

[Baglady]

I sense evil on this page. Right above me at that.

Colts Fans = The Legion of Doom.

Hmmm, well evil usually resides south - just saying.... Colts above you??? Nah, won't go there, that would be cruel (need an innocent angel pic)

You just wait till I can think of a comeback! I'm gonna get you!

Good thing I wasn't holding my breath - lol! Thought I saw a great angel pic here as I was leaving??? But, an angel might be a contradiction on an NFC East topic! After all, Eagles are flying awfully high....

[Emeritus]

The Eagles defense has suddenly returned from wherever they had gone. They are certainly all of the competition that the Giants will need in the NFC East.

[ListenUp]

I'm getting sick of all the Vick is impossible to beat stuff. Allow me to break it down for ya.

The Eagles O is a one trick pony even as flashy and impressive as it might be.They live and die by the deep ball and their running game doesn't threaten anyone I'm not saying they don't have decent backs,but there running game isn't gonna win the game for them. Its all about the deep ball and their D doesn't impressive me. They got a decent front 7,but are so soft at the edges its not funny. We can win the edge on them all day long and the Giants traditionally have had some really good running game against the Eagles and I think we can do that again.

One key on O to win this game is too run the ball and play physical GMEN smash mouth football and the Eagles will fold.Time of possession people is what we gotta do.After we beat them down with the running game just protect Eli and he will pick them apart.Eagles D doesn't scare me and could put 30 points on them with our eyes closed. Sorry you get no pressure from your front 4 and isn't the same without Johnson with all due respect. Maclin's a 1 trick pony and dog killer is probably the most over hyped QB in history right now. I think Eagles are walking into a buzz saw with the NYG wanting to redeem themselves from that embarrassing loss to Dallas and insert their will and show they still are the best D in the NFC.

But the dog killer he's unstoppable,he's a machine.Look NYG has done well limiting him before.Granted he didn't have the weapons he has in Philly,but we done well against him in the past. Playing tough man coverage is the key.Kill the WR's at the line,allow safety help over the top no more big pass play. The NYG D is the 1st the Eagles will see that isn't in the bottom half of the league and regardless what they wanna say about the Skins were not them. They are the 32nd ranked D in the NFL and coming in were still in the bottom half.

If I was the DC when your facing a very mobile QB like Vick its important to have a spy either a LB or DBack and they can trade off during the game playing in the box treating Vick like a RB at all times with having that person oly job to keep on him making sure hes accounted for at all times. Vick is also a lefty which means he'll roll out to the left which plays into Osi strength as a speed rusher.The spy then has to play Osi gap which give Vick problems on the naked bootleg that Philly loves to run.We also need to coordinate blitzes on Osi gap on obvious passing downs with the strong side which is Vicks blindside follow up. This means the spy plays the contain and idea is never give him enough time to throw down field.Not sitting in the pocket forever going up top to D-Jax or Maclin. The medium pass game is still suspect and the only thing to worry about there is getting beat by pure speed over the middle.So really what we'll be doing is surending the short game which isn't the Eagles strength and I don't give a F about giving McCoy the ball 25 times daring him to beat us.

Another part is keeping our safeties deep and not be free lancing over the field like they done. Do those things and we beat Philly.

[Baglady]

LU, wow - great analysis on Giants @ Eagles - believe I'll change my pic for the game...

Think you're right about Vick. Most honest Colts fans figured we'd get killed at Philly and when they went up 13-0 early I thought it might be over... But, the Colts got back in the game and had a shot at winning.
Looking at the stats, Peyton actually had more yds than Vick (both passing and rushing) and the same, 1 TD. Yes, for any 'lurkers' I know Peyton threw 2 picks....

Hope the Cowboys game was indeed a 'wake up' call for the Giants as one of the players suggested (Tuck - maybe?). Since I was at the Giants @ Colts and Cowboys @ Giants game, my siblings say I'm not allowed at any more Giants games!
BTW, the new Meadowlands stadium is great esp when the lights stay on - lol!

[Emeritus]

I'm glad that I didn't change mine.

[Reecey]

The Eagles may just be the best team in the NFC as of right now. It's officially time to start getting scarred of these guys.

[TryThinking]

The Eagles may just be the best team in the NFC as of right now. It's officially time to start getting scarred of these guys.

Any given Sunday Reecey......... all it takes is a key injury and a team can be screwed...

[Reecey]

True that TT.

[Emeritus]

I agree about the Eagles. Now that they have a running game to go with everything else, they are going to be hard to stop.

[ListenUp]

This is it.

In my opinion, this is the deciding game. If we dont show up and beat the Jags next Sunday, the season might as well be lost.

The Jags are a solid team at 6-4, but with our defense we should be able to pressure them into mistakes. They are probably about a .500 team.

On offense we must stop MJD. He is the key to the entire offense. I feel very confident in being able to do this though as the run game really hasnt beaten our defense at all this year with the exception of the Colts game where Fewell had a bad game plan for Peyton.

On D, they lost Aaron Kampman for the year and lack any huge pass rushing threats, so Eli should have time in the pocket. Their secondary is also very suspect, so the WR's should have a big day.

They seem to be in the same ship we are right now. A highly inconsistant QB and turning the ball over at a ridiculous rate. They however are in 1st place in a tough division and want to stay there. They beat the Colts. They have won 2 straight while we lost 2 straight.

If we are going to keep turning the ball over Im already marking this down as a loss. But if we can some how hang on to footballs, then we can beat them.

If we manage to turn things around in this game, and come out on top, then we are at 7-4 and can get back into the thick of things and do our damage. But if we come out hapless and turning the ball over, then we can all just..... fugedaboudit.

I still bELIeve we can, and it all starts with the man behind the center.

[Baglady]

Merry Christmas NYG fans, sure hope Santa comes through w/ a WIN for both the COLTS and GIANTS Sun !!!